Death penalty: What other’s are Thinking

Posted by: Gxxxx | May 31, 2009 at 07:02 AM

 

    I must say that I agree with the defense on the matter of the death penalty. There is something seriously wrong with the prosecution in the fact that they had waived the death penalty and then reinstated it. I know that this was done after the Caylee’s body was found, but Casey was already charged with 1st degree murder.

I have not yet seen one piece of evidence that ties her to the site where Caylee was found besides garbage bags, duct tape and a laundry bag. These are all very common household items that you will find in almost all houses. One thing that really makes me wonder is the laundry bag. This type of a household item you would think would be so easily linked to that home.

I say this due to the fact that it’s a cloth laundry bag that would hold an enormous amount of fibers, possible hair from other family members, etc. I find it hard to believe that if this basket did come from the Anthony house they have not found any evidence of fibers that could be linked to clothes from inside that house. I am also very much confused as to it taking them as long as they did to find Caylee’s body. This if anything will be the reason Casey walks.

We all have to be realistic here on this matter. Although we have this mountain of evidence that Casey did something to little Caylee the fact that the area was searched multiple times (Once with cadaver dogs) and several tips came in of possible evidence in a missing child case that were not followed up on correctly is a massive argument for the defense to claim the body was not there at that time. I myself am having a real hard time with this one.

This is especially troubling to me due to the fact that this area was only ¼ of a mile from the Anthony’s home and we all know that if tips were coming in that there was a possible dead child in the woods the authorities would have ripped that woods down tree by tree. Something is seriously wrong with this aspect of the case.

This could definitely put doubt in a jury’s mind as to whether Casey was the one to put the body there. All the evidence points to Casey having a part in whatever happened, but it does not point to pre meditated murder. There is no cause of death, no crime scene, no motive (Unless you want to say she did it to spite her mother or so she can be child free) and once again we have this long period of time before they found the body when it was almost in the Anthony’s back yard.

I really need to see what else the prosecution has because there is many holes in this case that need to be filled before I myself could say this was pre-meditated murder. Casey is definitely guilty of something (But what and to what extent) I wish Casey would just come out with what really happened.

Posted by: Gxxxx | May 31, 2009 at 07:02 AM

State of FloriDAH! vs. Death row realism (title By Jeanne Woodford).

State of FloriDAH! vs. Death row realism

Mike Thomas Blog

“But now I am reconsidering. Noted DePaul law professor Andrea Lyon has joined the defense because it lacked an attorney who met the qualifications to defend a death penalty case.  Lyon is a very accomplished attorney who more than meets the qualifications.”

 “Just like Johnnie Cochran took over O.J.’s defense from Robert Shapiro.”

 
Death row realism  by Jeanne Woodford

Death row realism I did my job, but I don’t believe it was the right thing to have done. We should have condemned Massie to permanent imprisonment — that would have made the world safer, but on the night we executed him, when the question was asked,

“Did this make the world safer?” the answer remained no. Massie needed to be keptaway from society, but we did not need to kill him.

 

“Do executions make us safer? San Quentin’s former warden says no.”  By Jeanne Woodford October 2, 2008

Can we all give Baez a Break?

REMEMBER; Jose’ Baez, originally hired to defend a fraud and theft by check charges.  The reason he remain was because Ms. Anthony asked him to…I am sure he said..  (Not quoting him), Hey, do you want me to find another attorney to handle the new set of charges.  The other thing that bothers me is the assumption that the death penalty is a lighthearted decision, either by Mr. Lamar, or by Ms. Drane-Burdick.

I think the DP was originally a knee jerk reaction to the public’s outrage.  The removal of the death penalty punishment been removed because the judge ruled in favor of the defendants objection notice (Atty Lenamon); it was not a “change of heart” on the States part.  The state returned to the Death penalty notice,  to leverage the case. I do not think for a minute, Ms. Drane-Burdick would even allow Mr. Lamar to play “death row Bluff” with her own career on the line.

Update:

It’s official, Andrea D. Lyon is on the case. Per Orange County Records update

CASEY MARIE ANTHONY    DEFENDANT
782.04(1)(A)(1) - FIRST DEGREE MURDER
Charge Level: FELONY   Charge Degree: CAPITAL
JOSE A BAEZ    ATTORNEY
ANDREA D LYON    ATTORNEY
YURI MELICH    OFFICER
4/13/2009 A NOTICE OF INTENT TO SEEK THE PENALTY OF DEATH FILED
5/28/2009 A VERIFIED MOTION FOR ADMISSION TO APPEAR PRO HAC VICE
5/29/2009 A NOTICE OF APPEARANCE FILED ANDREA D. LYON
5/29/2009 A NOTICE OF CERTIFICATION FILED

So, are you happy now Mr. Ashton? [FYI -“…has never to have lost a death-penalty case.”]

So, are you happy now Mr. Ashton?  Not only is Andrea Lyons qualified, is considered and expert on Capital law and death penalty case law.

In 2005, she received the president’s commendation from the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers for her death penalty work.

“Professor Lyon has tried over 130 homicide cases. A former Cook County Public Defender in Illinois, she served as chief of the public defender’s homicide task force. In 1990 she founded the Illinois Capital Resource Center and served as its director until joining the University of Michigan Law School faculty in 1995.” The statement added that, “In 2000, she joined DePaul’s faculty and is now the Associate Dean of Clinical Programs.”

 It’s funny I used President Obama as an example..5 degrees of separation is powerful.

Even the President of the US is not DP q under Florida Rule of Crim Pro 3.112.  (Unless there is a void, if it’s the president rule that supersedes the FS 3.112 rule.)

Posted by: finnperkins | May 26, 2009 at 06:49 PM (Hal TV Guy’s blog)

The dp qualified attorney can have a vitae to match President Obama,

but if he or she has not tried a case in the state of Florida, they do not qualify under Florida’s DPQA pre-requisite/law. [Florida Rule of Crim Pro 3.112](759 So.2d 610). Amended July 1, 2002 (820 So.2d 185); Oct. 8, 2008 (993 So.2d 501).

p.s. – I wonder what her nickname will be.

btw- WFTV does not waste time on trying to make Ms. Lyon’s day memorable. “WFTV’s headline -the new attorney …stay tune and see what we dug up on her and what you need to know!”

I bet this was a hard line for Kathi Belich to say -”Lyon has very impressive credentials” and “is said never to have lost a death-penalty case.”

Kathi Belich’s is saying an extra pray tonight, WFTV reporter states Ms. Lyon’s was added to the case but has yet to file the papers and to be approved by the court.  I do not think Judge Strickland will go out of his way to please Ms. Belich this week.

old comment I made regarding WFTV and their bent view of this case-

Casey maybe a liar, a cheat, even a poster child for a 5150 PSA, and last she may even be just an average 22-year-old slacker.

These trait do not add up to some one who could carry out not only the crime it’s self, but to leave no affirmative trace for FBI and local FDLE to confirm without the phrase tagged-
 
1.      Materials are too limited to fully characterize, they remain suitable for comparison  exam, should suspected sources be located. (Drugs test on hair)
2.      Accumulation of material from different sources collected into the trunk over a period. Because they are intimately mixed, no source of this material can be determined. (Trunk)
3.      Did not originate from crime scene (soil shovel and Casey’s shoes. all of them).
 
Just to list a few reason why this is not a slam-dunk for the state attorneys office (hello Mr. Ashton)…
jm2cents/Finn

…and behind door number 3 we have…? I think I’ll keep my dental appointment Thursday

“The defense team planned to introduce the death-qualified attorney at the hearing.”  ….WESH’s Bob Kealing 

Here is a response from a blogger.”  Hopefully will be another Bozo Baez!”

I found 32 references to Baez using the word BOZO.  I remember Bozo as a fun Clown who made me laugh, everyday on WFTV.  I even have to sit in on a show while I was a brownie scout.  Now my childhood clown is now forever connected to Jose’ Baez and Casey Anthony.

Do they think Jose is funny? Does Jose’ Baez have very large feet. 

Is it that Jose’ wear a bright blue outfit to work every day?  Does Jose’ have an over the top Crayola Red hair do?  [Something I have yet to witness]  I found after reading the 32 posts today that, the reason why they call Mr. Baez …”Bozo”,

1.    Because they may not know how to spell Baez correctly.
2.    Because he has a receding hairline.
3.    Because he is flatfooted.
4.    Because his name begins with the letter”B”.

 

When WFTV reminds us as viewers that Casey was watching their station, they forgot to also tell us, that the pods are not rigged with Dish Network, and unlike Casey who has TV is on WFTV, I get my News from Fox35 thank you…

In Print from Orlando Sentinel

The web from the WSJ on-line.

Oh, yes Radio is 104.1 

       Posted by: finnperkins | May 26, 2009 at 05:29 PM

 

Jose’ Morning according to YOU-

brush teeth,
kiss the wife,
hugs the kids,
grab the paper,
pick up the brief case,
find the car keys
…and oh, call Kathi Belich!  NOT.

 Jose’ Morning, according to Jose’-

brush teeth,
kiss the wife,
hugs the kids,
grab the paper,
pick up the brief case,
find the car keys
…and oh call ahead 511 for traffic report.

Hal what is the usual protocol for courthouse media?

imo- the media has knew from Jose’s own spokesperson that the attorney whom the team
has chosen would be released prior to the may 28th hearing date.
Posted by: finnperkins | May 26, 2009 at 06:32 PM

 

I would pose this question (but I know the answer already, but here is anyway.

Q-Did the jail staff move Casey into the same situation as they did on Dec. 11?
A-From my inside source, Casey was not moved from her cell to the same area on the day Padilla did his FALSE find dive.
Footnote-what a waste of funds on his part, but it is his money.
Posted by: finnperkins | May 26, 2009 at 05:37 PM
I fact, the Same jail CO said, Casey’s regular schedule time, to be in the regular open-population TV room while the others were outside.  The jail CO’ noticed the coverage, and that before the finds were announced, the CO sent Casey back to her Cell, without incident.

The info on the NON-Movement of Casey from Cell on the Day Padilla did his FALSE search, was from a Jail CO, who’s mother works at the salon where my mother’s stylist works,…na na na.  For real, a bunch of 80 year old ladies discuss this every Friday now. I call it “Updates from the Q-tips”

Posted by: finnperkins | May 26, 2009 at 05:53 PM

“ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat” Is it Greek to you? …”it’s part of the Bill of Rights for me!

…wondering when we lost faith in our Bill of Rights and who do we have to thank, in helping us get back the faith.

ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat 

Unbelievably, the many defendants on death row, the many domestic violence victims with in our own communities.  With every injustice, every crime on humanity, every lapse in judgment, we as a nation follow the trail of stories that usually horrify even the most harden of hearts.  When the days is done and go to pray before your sleep, far from your mind is the fact that, we have the framers of our U.S. Constitution & our Bill of Rights to thank, as we can freely worship, and pray at will.

We also can attribute the same to many other privileges that we as US citizens take for granted time, while we wonder upon this vast space call earth.  As much as the viewers and readers who feel some one is guilty based on the knowledge they profess as fact, because it came from out TV screen, or our internet searches we conduct as armchair sleuths,  the same bill of rights that allow freedom of speech also offers us the Fifth  and Fourteenth Amendment. 

The burden of proof is thus on the prosecution, which has to collect and present enough compelling evidence to convince the judge and jury, who are restrained and ordered by law to consider only actual evidence and testimony that is legally admissible. 

The guaranteeing the presumption of innocence extends beyond the judicial system.  For instance, in many countries journalistic codes of ethics state those journalists should refrain from referring to suspects as though their guilt is certain.  The Reports are to use “suspect” or “defendant” when referring to the suspect, and use “alleged” when referring to the criminal activity of the suspect. 

More subtly, publishing of the prosecution’s case without proper defense argumentation may constitute presumption of guilt.  Publishing a roster of arrested suspects may constitute undeserved punishment as well, since in practice it damages the reputation of innocent suspects.  I feel this also applies to the defendant’s family members and to the witnesses and their families.

How would you feel if you were the sister, brother of a defendant or witness in the Anthony case…?  Think of Roy Kronk, before you fly off the words.

ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat

“Second verse same as the first”… endless accounting of the lies as they are feed you through the mega pixels of your flat screen TVs

I am responding to anyone who thinks this applies to them, it probably does.

I find it interesting how many of the bloggers here recite the same words repeatedly as it they are all at their computers at the same time, and typing in a wandering chorus, repeating words from media sources, with out reference to the author.

Our computers are the common thread through all of the posts, are words of hate, cynicism and contempt for the Laws of Society.

If the Media had not released any of the interviews conducted by FDLE, What would all of you base you opinions on with out the help of the Florida’s Government in the sunshine?  The Florida loose open records laws, the worst in the nation (jmo).  What would all of you base you opinions on with out the help of the Florida’s GISL?

The FL S. 119.105 Protection of victims of crimes or accidents, is not enforceable because it does allow the NEWS MEDIA to have these records, but I want to know when to draw line should be in the sand.

I think that as of May 17, 2009, the Casey Anthony case is not longer News. At this point, the Anthony case is a “Topic,” used to generate advertising revenue for the local TV station.

The Local TV stations are corporations.  Most TV stations offer us 1 to 3 hours worth of time set aside for local news segments, at least hour of accumulated news segment promos to promote there news segment, and the remainder of the air time is sold to various affiliates, known as primetime programming.  Then there is after hours leased access time for infomercials and alike…. 

Therefore, at what point will the Federal, State, and Local government acknowledge that our local Media stations are a business, which is held to corporate taxation; therefore, they are an entity that uses our public records information for commercial solicitation.

Every time a reader clicks on a website of WFTV, WESH, WKMG, and many others, they are also generating automated revenue, even if a reader does not click the advertisement on the webpage, the station sell its ad space based on projected demographic.

A request for Local News WFTV 9, ..”Get back to delivering the news, not BEING the NEWS.”

Jose Baez’s spokesperson said –
WFTV’s Kathi Belich was wrong when she reported this week that Baez “faxed copies of his motion for a change of venue to some reporters before he ever filed it with the court.”
Marti Mackenzie via an email; “Let us know when you plan to retract your report.”
Here is my response –
I posted this on Hal’s blog.
So if WFTV is not making a retraction regarding the assertions that Kathi Belich made during her broadcast, indicating that a copy of the motion filed, had been fax over to media prior to Mr. Baez arriving at the offices of the Orange County Clerk of the Courts House, in which he filed the motion for change of venue.  Have we heard any follow-up or noticed if the “Motion” was posted on the web yet.
It is odd that such a KEY offering from Kathi Belich, would not be followed up with “first here on ch9, the copy of the faxed Motion”, prior to the clerks date/certification.
I realize the ink is already dry on the new three-year contract between Belich and WFTV, but let us get back to reality.  WFTV you are a local ABC news affiliate, not a local reality production house.
Get back to delivering the news, not BEING the NEWS.
jm2cents/Finn

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